He primarily targeted aThree Percentermilitia, but also got close to the Oath Keepers and Kinch.
The substance of the podcasts has not previously been reported.
Who Is Bobby Kinch?
An Oath Keeper member in front of the Supreme Court on Jan. 5, 2021, in Washington, D.C.Tasos Katopodis/Getty Images
Kinch is in his mid-fifties.
He has a salt-and-pepper goatee, and a preference for trucker hats and hoodies.
His brown eyes flare intently as he discusses his views on politics.
Kinch recalled leaving the military in 1993 and getting hired as a Las Vegas cop, serving until 2016.
Race war, Civil, Revolution?
Im about as fed up as a man (American, Christian, White, Heterosexual) can get!
Kinch sought damages for fear, emotional distress, humiliation and/or embarrassment.
The suit from Kinch was later dismissed for procedural reasons.
Reflecting his departure from the force, Kinch said: I was cancel culture before cancel culture was cool.
That means that you organize and you talk to your fellow citizens.
This whole podcast is the virtual taverns, Kinch said, It is theTun Tavernof 2024.
How Did Kinch Become an Oath Keepers Leader?
The Oath Keepers recruit military veterans and law enforcement, appealing to a patriotic sense of duty.
However the paramilitary group has long been steeped in conspiracy.
Those who join the group (thenandnow) commit to a list of ten orders we will not obey.
These start out sensibly (e.g.
Kinch described the Utah Oath Keepers as being largely self-directing and self-funded.
Kinch also said he was also aware of a plan he described blandly as to assist the president.
Kinch said he personally balked at the expense and the potential trouble of joining Rhodes.
I did not go, he said, adding: Had I been the national director at the time…
I would have been like, Nope, were not fucking going to that.
Despite the former leaders conviction for seditious conspiracy, Kinch said of Rhodes, Hes a good dude.
(The many Oath Keepers doing hard time for crimes against democracy speaks loudly against such assertions.)
There was no power of attorney.
Somebody ran away with all the money, he said.
So Im like, literally handed a steaming pile of shit here.
Kinch said he became determined to build this plane in flight.
America, it was born out of violence, he told the Modern Frontiersman.
Violence should be the last measure.
It should be the last option.
I agree with that.
But sometimes we have to be proactive.
Theyre going to call us a militia, he said.
They call us insurrectionists.
Were the good guys.
The bad guys in Kinchs view the enemies of our republic occupy positions of power.
This tyranny that has taken over its treasonous, he said.
We need to start calling it what it is.
We dont have very much time left.
In Kinchs view, the country in 2024 was on the verge of an explosion.
Are we months away from the end of our country.
He concluded his infamous Lets just get this over!
Facebook post by writing: Its obviously come to a boiling point!
I say FUCK IT!
Im ready now!)
In Kinchs perspective, Everybodys preparing for the inevitable.
He referred to ominous, unspecified impending catastrophes.
When the lights go out and they dont come on.
Bad things are happening.
Bad things are happening very quickly.
Within just a matter of hours to just a couple days, bad things start to happen.
I mean, were so close to the alternative.
Because once the conversation stops, the fighting begins, and we dont want that.
Kinch leans hard into Revolutionary War metaphors.
Were in that 1775 moment.
Has the temperature been lowered by the election of Trump?
The leaked files include a pair of meeting and strategy documents from 2023.
A similar email to an address listed on the Oath Keepers national website bounced back.
An inquiry sent to the group via a messaging portal on the site did not receive a response.
The documents are consistent with one another.
One reflects the minutes from a Feb. 2023 leadership meeting.
The second is a Strategic Plan from March of that year.
The minutes list Kinch as both the State and National Leader of the Oath Keepers.
The Strategic Plan details Kinchs Utah role as Overall CEO, direction setter, and Visionary.
His number two is referred to as the XO the same term Kinch used for himself in that position.
Among 2022 achievements it celebrates: We survived!
We exited those who dont meet those standards, and implemented strict vetting processes.
(DT in this context comes off as shorthand for a federal designation of domestic terrorism.)
The growth goals were exponential: projecting 5,000 state members and 500,0000 national members by 2027.
(The groups present membership numbers are not clear.)
The goals also include Recruiting of younger… persons.
And some of the targets are young indeed: The document highlights a need for Community outreach programs.
(Boy scouts, public training, events, youth involvement).
The line chart reveals a strategic goal for the coming years, shorthanded as: Established youth programs.
I dont care if youre running for school board or president, he said.
