That was my goal, absolutely, coming into the show.

I wanted to win, Efron tellsRolling Stoneon a call alongside the other winners.

Prior to filming, Efron watched both prior seasons ofTraitors, analyzing past players strategies.

‘The Traitors’ Season 3 winners

From left: Lord Ivar Mountbatten, Gabby Windey, Dylan Efron, and Dolores Catania.Griffin Nagel/PEACOCK

I think I could win.

There wasnt much going on in our little worlds, Lord Ivar tellsRolling Stone.

So when I saw it, I was actually staggered.

Windey snapped back, Im not saying Im dumb.

She was like, No Gabby, I actually think youre smart.

Thats not what were talking about at all.

But whatever, we come in all different shapes and sizes.

I did it like I do onHousewives.

I always did what I would normally do.

I just couldnt put the two together yet.

They couldnt have gotten along in there, especially once Danielle crossed Carolyn.