We have offered upsome ofour own.
That was the case before the Covid era and even more so now.
Is there anything today that you’re free to tell me about those voters?
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What we already have available to us, I think, is pretty clear.
And we wont know exactly who they are until voter files are appended.
Those people just stayed home.
Thats about 20 million people.
Yeah, its what Ive been writing about over and over again in the run-up.
Just not enough of them.
Yeah, of course.
That never came close to happening with that regularity before.
But theres not evidence that theyre moving to [Trump] or MAGA.
Pick any group you have heard about moving right, say noncollege voters.
A very disproportionate share of those 2020 noncollege Biden voters stayed home.
They didnt move right; they moved away from the political process altogether.
And the mainstream media just checked out on it.
So how are voters supposed to know?
There seem to be these two narratives forming where pundits and politicos attempt to explain why Harris lost.
One being that Democrats either abandoned or were abandoned by working-class voters.
The other being that Democrats are too woke, and the Republican campaign against trans Americans was really effective.
I think there are a lot better explanations.
There can be no bigger causes than somebodys TV ads or the kinds of things youre describing.
Its ridiculous and its not the way all of this works.
It made relationships harder.
It made raising families harder.
Combined with housing, it meant more people feeling like failures because theyre moving back into their parents homes.
So then youre going through that, and then you get Covid and Covid, youre fired, right?
And social isolation in that context.
And then you get inflation.
The confidence and approval of every institution just plummets.
But when they hear, I cant get an abortion, it isnt anymore.
Does that, to you, signal the Democratic path back here?
Its that the financial stakeholders in the party absolutely dont want to touch that precarity.
And an agency crisis.
Can you expand on that?
These are all things that the people in the leadership of both parties dont experience at all.
Theyre blind to that aspect of whats going on.
And they dont know how good it is.
But it seems like thats just not even part of the conversation.
And obviously, higher interest rates are actuallyfully written outof most economic measurements in D.C.
They see that as prosperity rather than inflation.
Theyve been allowing billionaires to swamp the electoral system, delegitimizing elections in this country in general.
Could you talk a little bit about that and how you think we might begin to change that tide?
We cant begin to have solutions until we understand that its a difficult, already metastasizing cancer.
I dont have a 10-point thing we have to do.
The first step has to be facing where we are.
They understood that they were in a position where undoing any of it couldnt happen through a democratic process.
You couldnt get a bill in Congress that says, let everybody have firearms.
Yeah, 100 percent.
And to religious leaders to not sit on their hands when their congregants are threatened.
Or something like that.
